Example: David and Goliath: One could use this as a lesson to teach no matter how big the obstacle you may be facing, if you have faith and trust in God, He will help you over come it all.

As you can see from my example the teachings of the Torah are moral based lessons where you are learning something about God through the stories, and deeds of the Old Testament.

With this in mind and now that you have an understanding of what I am actually debating, I am going to reply to some of the things that Michael has stated in his last speech about Hebrews 10:9. Michael stated that this passage, Hebrews 10:9, is talking about a change in priesthood, and animal sacrifices. Michael you just gave up this whole debate, the noose is about to get a lot tighter.

Michael has just admitted that the old law (Torah) has changed.

Also there are parts of the Torah that Michael cannot do because those parts are not binding today like animal sacrifices, and etc.

For in Hebrews 7:12

“For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.”

When this passage states parts of the Torah have changed. It is talking about changes such as the Sabbath, circumcision, animal sacrifices, and etc. Not all of the Torah has changed. For example nine out of the Ten Commandments are still in effect today along with all the teachings, such as moral values that we learn by reading the Torah.

Now this brings up the question, what parts of the Torah have changed?

All COMMANDMENTS that are not repeated in the New Testament (which are mainly those which are commanded for Jews only) have changed.

Now that I have replied to Michael’s argument on Hebrews 10:9, I would like to reply to some of the other things Michael has stated in his last speech.

I. What about circumcision?

1. As shown in my last speech in Genesis 17:7-8 clearly states that one must be circumcised in order to keep the Torah. In reply to this, Michael stated that “Circumcision, the seal of Abraham’s covenant (Promise), predated the Torah and the Mosaic Covenant. Well Michael what about Leviticus 12:3?

2. Michael also stated, “Circumcision was never a requirement for salvation.”

Question for Michael: Does that mean it does not matter if you keep the Torah or not? (After all keeping it is not a requirement for salvation.)

II. Michael has referenced Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Hebrews 8:8-12 a number of times, and so I want to deal with them. Unfortunately, these passages do not help my friend’s position at all. Let us look at these passages.

A) Jeremiah 31:31-34

31."Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,

32. not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD.

33. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

So with that in mind look at this passage closer. In Jeremiah 31:31-34 it states that There will be a day that the Lord will make a NEW covenant not like the one he made with their fathers.(which they broke, talking about the law he put in effect) So this one(law) will be totally different.

Yes, the word law is the Hebrew word, “Torah” in this passage, but it does not refer to the Torah my friend says is still binding. The word here just simply means “Law” the same with the Greek word in this next passage Hebrews 8:8-12.

B) Hebrews 8:8-12

8. For he finds fault with them when he says: "Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah,

9. not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord.

10. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

11. And they shall not teach, each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest.

12. For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more."

Here are some other places that the Greek word in Hebrews 8:8-12 is found in the Bible.

Gal. 6:2, “Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.”

James 1:12, “Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him.” Notice that these two passages are not talking about the Old Law but the New Law.

I would also like to restate a passage from one of my earlier speeches.

Romans 7:1-6

1. Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives?

2. For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage.

3. Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress.

4. Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God.

5. For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death.

6. But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.

In responding to my question about this passage which was “what does it mean to belong to another?” Michael stated “this means to belong to Yeshua”

Unfortunately for my friend this passage does not teach that it teaches that you are bound to another law, as noted in verse 4.

We have died to the law. We are not still alive in the law. Also when you die to this law you are under a new one.

Michael has also made the argument that since I used one author (Paul) it makes my argument invalid, and that we should instead look at the entire Bible, and not just one author. Not that I am disagreeing with him on looking at the entire Bible, but I want to deal with his argument that it takes more than one author. There is only one author that wrote that Jesus wept at the tomb of Lazarus, but according to Michael that it takes more than one author to make it a fact that Jesus wept.

In closing I want to look at one more thing. If Michael wants to bind any of the Torah, He must perform or bind all of it, or it will become a curse to him. Which he has yet to prove that he does.

Galatians 3: 10-13 “For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them."

Thank you,

Myles Davis

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